Is this real???

[fat 125]

is this thumpstar real or is a cheap chinese copy. Because it's really cheap if it is the real deal!!!
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Motorbike-dirtbike-motor-bike-dirt-bike-thumpstar_W0QQitemZ220003524222QQihZ012QQcategoryZ32074QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

 

[Brayden#87]

Thats fake and a half.

 

[motoX]

i got the same bike bought it from ebay about 1 month ago its sweet

 

[Dirt Bikez & Pocket B]

But Its A Fake. Good Motor Though :d

 

[hustle]

Fake but still good.

 

[Scott]

Thumpstar Is Fake.

Haha You Guys are funny.

So Thats a Fake of a Fake.?

 

[Robbie]

Thumpstars are all fakes? WTF

 

[Brayden#87]

their is real ones you know!
http://www.thumpstar.cc/home.html

 

[No-Fear]

Thumpstar Is Fake.

Haha You Guys are funny.

So Thats a Fake of a Fake.?

Wrong! what does thumpstar copy?
their bikes are genuine, i've never seen any bikes the same as the ORIGINAL thumpstars.
1. they are 100% diff to crf's
2. they are made in a diff country to crf's
3. they only use some 'same' parts as crf because it would cost to much to start making new parts for them.

you've got the main bikes like...
Thumpstar
Pitster Pro
RCM
Vinco
BBR
Two Bros
etc
then other companies copy their bikes, so the copys are the only fakes, the main bikes are quite unique in their own special way.

 

[Dirt Bikez & Pocket B]

^^^^ what he said ^^^^

 

[Max99]

I have just found out a couple of interesting things on the net that might stir up the ‘fake of a fake’ question.
Have a look back in Honda’s past. It developed off road motorcycles in the first place on the back of the Europeans. Off road bikes were either in a class originally called scamblers which then developed into trials. A big player was Spain with a partnership forming Montessa in 1945 which one founder then split off forming Bultaco (I have a 1969 Bultaco Sherpa T). Honda bought out Montessa around 1980, utilising it’s manufacturing and it’s technology after communism had ruined the Spanish industry. Around the same time Honda released it’s famous 2-stroke motocross, the ‘Elsinore’ in the USA.
This bit of history is my attempt to show that the developing Chinese industry is just another page in a book that started in 1869 when French cycle maker Michaux first attached a steam engine to a ‘bone-shaker’ bicycle
Motorcycle brands (not types) are know as ‘marques’ a word which is defined as ‘a license to act as a privateer’. There is no way possible that motorcycle historians can trace all of the marques ever assembled.
It seems that the ‘Thumpstar’ marque was founded in 1999 by a company for the Australian and New Zealand markets. They are primarily manufactured by the Hunan Motor Co. and the Jailing Motor Co. Jailing has been in bed with Honda since 1982. Other companies in China also have collaborative agreements with Honda, sharing manufacturing, assembly and technology.
Check out a USA marque ‘Xtreme’. http://www.xtrememotorco.com
This company is sourcing its range from the Hunan Motor Co……the same as Thumpstar. Hunan’s own marque is FYM. Is Thumstar a fake FYM…….no.
If it used the marque FYN……you might say so.
When we talk about ‘original’ or ‘fake’ we mean who got the recognisable TM (trademark) first. If Thumpster (with an e) registered first then Thumpstar would be the ‘fake’ I suppose.
Lifan landed in court using the marque ‘Hondga’ after manufacturing and technology were exchanged with Honda. I’d only call Lifans a fake Honda if they had kept the name Hondga.
I think calling a Thumpster a ‘fake’ Thumstar is fair. Or particulary a company even using copied stickers as in the one on the first post I suspect. But you really have to leave it there.
Chinese manufacturing has created a whole new animal….hence the confusion. Modern man often doesn’t see just how dependent he is on labels.
Thumpstar is not making bikes…..they’re ordering with their label and marketing, and they did it earlier than others who are now doing the same. They are obviously getting a range of bikes assembled with some of the best stock bits that China has to offer……but with other marques starting to match the quality of parts selection, it might not be too long before you’re paying the extra just for the name. They’re probably still the best stock Chinese pitbike in Australia that money can buy…….at the moment…..….but don’t get stuck on one page of the history book.

 

[CATKICKER]

What about braaapsters?? are they a good bike?

 

[Max99]

Yeah...I checked out http://www.braaap.com.au
There not shabby but asking $3499 for the top model.
Definately give bikes in the Thumpstar class a run for their money - part for part.
Basically if a bike has the Lifan engine, fast-ace suspension and a good strong chasis it'll get my vote. If it's got the wheel sizes you like and a bit-o'-bling.....sweet. If it has an oil-cooler fitted....unreal. Every extrta bit costs $$$
The difference in price from their top bike to their bottom is $1100. Ask yourself, is there $1100 worth of extra parts on that top model? (Considering you could recoup $$$ by floggging off the replaced bits new on ebay, if you upgrade a lesser built up bike immediately).
Don't worry, there's still plenty of $$$ you could spend upgrading that top model if you're into the race scene - which is the market these guys are obviously aiming at.
For example that stock engine that is in it. Yeah great bikes for sure, but I know I'm gonna have just as good for a lot less than $3500.

 

[Max99]

Those kids are in it for a quick buck

I saw one for the first time today at local race meet, and like I said I wouldn't spend those sort of $$$