^^^^agreed.........i got to take home 2 demo bikes today but the guys from the shop came around to(i know them preety well)make sure i wasnt floggin the arse outa them lol.......the yzf was a big dissapointment in my opinion every time you hit a big rut or woop it would cart you all over the track the power was good but way off the mark from previous models i think that yami have fell in a big bloody hole this year and they really gotta sort stuff out big time but thats just my opinion.........the honda was brilliant but i expected a little more from wat ive heard and read, i found the breaks quite dam good an responsive despite most reviews the engine rips it has very very good bottom end(its about time honda lol)and it maintains the power very well through out the revs, top end is huge for a 250 and im happy i have chose the honda........peter1230, ya they got twin pipes still........i see a few of yas are talking about the kxf and rmz i think they are the 2 best looking bikes out there but they both run the same engine the 250's suck balls but the 450 is in a different world, they rip.......ktms i like but never rode and cant afford lol they cost a fair dam bit over here but i would like to own 1 one day maybe......anyways thats my 2 cents