mikuni carby

[pit rydar]

i wanna buy a mikuni 26mm carby but i don't know which is real or fake so can some one gimme a link from ebay which actually sells real mikuni carbies

the carby i have is like crazzy #1 or the ones which come wif the 125cc pitpro
http://www.miniriders.com.au/forum/showthread.php?t=8871



thanks

 

[RD RACING]

i would have a look at ESD [ sponsored dealer to this forum ] they have some genuine 25mm mikunis which are very good when fitted with a 105 main jet to suit a 125cc.

 

[eichkay]

Any ebay seller generaly wont have a 26mm mikunki , The 25mm listed on ESD is a VM22 copy which is a 22mm Mikuni , no if and's or but's about it. If it has a mounting bolts that bolt to the inlet manifold and its labled as a 25mm, 26mm or 30mm Its a FAKE and its only a 22mm carbi The REAL 26mm mikuni have a rubber boot that mounts to the inlet and the carbi side is hose clamped on.

This is what a REAL 26mm mikuni looks like

 

[eichkay]

This is a 22mm mikuni copy, also known as a 24,25,26mm

 

[eichkay]

better pic of a 26mm mikuni

 

[pit rydar]

hey guys thanks for showing me the differences between the real and fake i was wonding where you can get the real deal, or even better giving me a link from ebay so i can buy it


thanks

 

[pit rydar]

come on guys i tried finding on ebay and they are all the 22mm plz help

thanks

 

[eichkay]

Link to Oz50's Carbi Page

 

[Toddo]

Mikuni carb's have been made in China for some time now,and if you pick up any carb with the Mikuni on it ,then it's the real deal not a fake like everyone say's.
The bolt on flange on Mikuni's is nothing new,they made a VM 18 carb in something like the 1970's or possibly earlier.
As i said before,if it say's 'Mikuni' on the carb,then it's a REAL Mikuni carb!!

 

[Flarry]

Yes, there are Chinese Mikuni carbs and Japanes ones, they are both pretty good.

The pitpro 140 comes with the chinese one, most of the chinese ones have a butterfly valve.

 

[Toddo]

Mikuni have used 2 types of 'choke' system on their carb's,the plunger type,all 18-26mm VM carb's and the butterfly type,which is used on some 30mm and up carb's.
Not being a smart a@#e,but i've been around the carb game and i don't want people to think their carb's junk.
What's interesting is these flange type Mikuni's were fitted to some stationary engines(generator's etc).

 

[tubes380]

ive got a mikuni pz26 copy on my bike and it goes heaps good i wouldnt worry about getting a genuine carby as its too much money and wont really give much gain over a decent copy carby, and the cpy i have is a 26mm carby not 22mm

 

[AusJames]

Well, I measured up my 25/26mm chinese copy mikuni and sure enough, it's 25mm! NOT 22mm. It doesn't have a butterfly valve choke and runs pretty damn well.

I've been told that the chinese copy carbs are 99% as good as the genuine stuff and about a 3rd the price. Same jets etc. simple choice for me.

I have however heard that the Keihin flat slides are slightly better than the mikuni. I might look that way if I find my mikuni doesn't give me enough top end later on, on my motard

 

[pit rydar]

hey tubes 380

just wondering where did you buy the mikuni pz26 it looks like the real?

 

[Cactus Jack]

Well, I measured up my 25/26mm chinese copy mikuni and sure enough, it's 25mm! NOT 22mm. It doesn't have a butterfly valve choke and runs pretty damn well.

Just because the carb measures a certain size at the outlet doesn't mean that's what size it is ! The Mikuni's sold on ebay with 25 mm outlets are 22 mm carbs - it's printed on the float bowl if you take a really good look .They are on Pitsters in the US and they advertise them as 22 mm Mikunis . The 30 mm outlet Mikunis on 140 bikes are in reality - 26 mm Mikunis - they have a 24 mm slide .

Put a REAL 28 mm Mikuni off a KX80 or any other 80/85 next to any pitbike Mikuni and you'll feel like a complete fool for thinking they are as big as you've been conned into believing ! A Genuine VM-28 Mikuni has a 27 mm slide - 49 mm O/D inlet flange - 38 mm O/D outlet with a 33 I/D .

In the real world of NO BS - the size of a carb in mm is the area thru the slide section - IF you THINK you have a 25 mm carb then you should be able to put something measuring 25 mm in diameter ( or the equivalent squashed into an oval shape ) right thru it ~ IF NOT - then you have a "make believe / fantasy " 25 mm carburetor !

 

[Toddo]

Mikuni make a flatside carb,24 or 26mm i believe,now that would be an interesting carb!
Anyone actually tried a Keihin 28mm flatside on a 140 Lifan?

 

[Flarry]

Just because its chinese DOES NOT mean its a copy!!!!! Its still a genuine mikuni carb just made in China, they are pretty much just as good as the jap made ones.

 

[Cactus Jack]

Mikuni make a flatside carb,24 or 26mm i believe,now that would be an interesting carb!
Anyone actually tried a Keihin 28mm flatside on a 140 Lifan?

Mack seems to say they work good in his thread on porting . I'm going to try a 28 mm OKO (Keihin copy) soon . A 24 to 26 mm carb would be better for general dirt flogging and you can go bigger for road (motard or drag racing use) .

There is a guy selling what appears to be Keihin flatslides on ebay but they are most likely cheap copies so they're most likely no better than the OKO's !

You be the judge :

Copy :
http://img133.imageshack.us/img133/6656/keihin282ke6.jpg

http://img184.imageshack.us/img184/505/keihin281qm4.jpg

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/e...RK:MEWA:IT&viewitem=&item=270107511482&rd=1,1

Genuine :

http://usera.imagecave.com/fastcashtoday/4-10-07-JDjet_Kawasaki/4-10-07-JDJetkit-Kawasaki011.JPG

http://usera.imagecave.com/fastcashtoday/4-10-07-JDjet_Kawasaki/4-10-07-JDJetkit-Kawasaki012.JPG

http://www.geocities.jp/y_yas_50/leo-modi-pwk01.jpg

 

[Cactus Jack]

Just because its chinese DOES NOT mean its a copy!!!!! Its still a genuine mikuni carb just made in China, they are pretty much just as good as the jap made ones.

They might be genuine Mikunis - but the claimed size is FALSE !!!!!!! A bike with a genuine VM-24 mm Mikuni OR PE-24 Keihin would flog a bike with a "25" mm ebay "Made in Japan" Mikuni ! It's misleading info similar to how some sellers say their bikes have a 19" front and 18" rear wheel when the bike actually has 14/12 ! A full sized MX bike has a 21" inch front wheel and a 19" rear !

The chinese alter their specs to make things "sound" better "for advertising purposes" as one seller put it when I informed him that the 125 Lifan Super motor he sold me was a 52.4 x 55.5 ~ 119 cc motor ! I've emailed several sellers of "25" mm Mikunis to ask them who told them their carbs are 25 mm or whatever size they claim and they have NO answer !

 

[Toddo]

Cactus Jack,I reckon the OKO(keihin) might work out fine if tuned.
Do you intend on fitting this to a 140 Lifan?You MUST tell us how you go!
Holley should get the Chinese to market their carb's,they could sell 600 vac's as 1050 dominator's!!