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Me and my Brother are both new to riding and want to get a cheap Thumpstar each. We'll both just be using them for mucking around on this hill/paddock near us, no serious racing, jumping or anything.

Here's the specs for the first one. It's $575

Heavy duty extended front forks
Colour Coded Wheels and Bars
Power Pipe with ALLOY Muffler
Spring Loaded Gear Lever
Alloy Tripple Tree
Heavy Duty Adjustable Rear Shock
Foam Sports Air Filter
Mikuni Carbi
Wave Disc Rotors
Upgraded Knobby Tyres (Not Cheapies)
Nylon Chain Runner (Not rubber like cheap bikes)

Engine: 125cc, single cylinder, 4-stroke, air-cooled
Ignition: CDI
Start-up: Kick Start
Drive system: chain-driven
Wheels: 12" Front and 10" Rear
Fuel tank: 3L
Speed: under 90km/h
Fuel Usage : approx 65kms
Wheel Base : 1130mm
Seat height: approx 770mm
Max load capacity: Recommended MAX 95KG
Dry Weight : 60kg
Exhaust: High Performance

Here's a pic http://smbfinance.com.au/images/bencc.jpg

As you can see it has no stickers or anything, no brand stickers etc so I think it's really generic.

Here's the 2nd one, it's $600

Manufacturer:
Orion

DUCAR 125cc 4 Stroke Single Cylinder Air cooled

Manual (International 1 down 3 up)

Kick Start and Electric start

18mm alloy sport muffler

26mm Carburetor

Adjustable HeavyDuty rear Mono-shock

Colour: CARBON FIBRE

MAX SPEED: 100km

BORE*STROKE: 52.4mm x 55.5mm

SEAT HEIGHT: About 750mm

WHEEL BASE: 1100mm

TANK CAPACITY: 3Litre

Quality Front and Rear Hydraulic WAVE Disc Brake

FRONT/REAR WHEEL SIZE:2.15X14"/3.0X12"

PRODUCTS SIZE:159X67X100cm

CARTON SIZE: 138X42.5X70cm

G.W/N.W: 78KG/65KG

Max weight capacity:100kg

NGK SPARK PLUG

Sports Air Filter

Heavy duty bearings

Reliable Quality throttles and handles Grips

Improved heavy duty KMC chain

Telescopic front fork

Aluminium Head set

Engine bash plate

KNOBBY TYRES

Here's a pic: http://www.ebay.ideaseven.com/images/21g/blue/left.JPG

These 2 are both knock offs obviously. Do you guys think they'll be fine for what we wanna do?

Or should we just bid on a Pitpro each? I found one with 5 hours left and it's up to $522, how high do you think it will be when it finishes? Do you think they will go over $700? I hope it doesn't.

Thanks.
 
what brand engine is in the first one? if its a lifan then get that over the ducar cos they are a lot better. but i think you should get a pitpro off ebay, the old style RR 125cc ones usually go for 500-600 and they are a good bike.
 
Yeah we decided to go for a Pitpro.

We're going to bid on a

BR NEW 2007 125cc PITPRO OUTLAW, DIRT BIKE, PIT

There's also a

BR NEW 2007 125cc RR PITPRO, DIRT BIKE, THUMPSTAR, PIT (RR) but its got 2 days left and its up to $400 with 6 bids. It'll probably end up being more expensive.
 
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you always bid at the last minute..
 
yeah either of the pitpro's are fine. like any of the knockoff bikes tho you need to know how to work on bikes and make sure every nut and bolt is tight (loctite helps).

only problems ive had with my outlaw have been loose headstem bearings (easy to tighten), kinked fuel hose (replaced it with some decent stuff), broken clutch lever (unbreakable my ass!), and the fake carbon fibre stuff was flaking off around the fuel tank filler and ended up in the carby, huge chunks of it blocking up the main jet. easy to clean out tho, recommend a fuel filter.

the forks on mine are a bit stiff tho, going to pull them apart when i can be bothered and put some decent fork oil in them (motul) and make sure the sag is set right.

you'll need a decent chain before long too, and the front brake pads on mine needed a good roughing up before they were any use. the bolts holding the fuel tank on snapped the first time i took it off so its held on with cable ties now.

great bike for the money tho, wheelies great and throws a pretty decent roost under gas. i put a IRK on mine and didnt really do anything, probably not worth bothering on the 125's. myself and anyone who rides it always get off the bike smiling :)

i got my outlaw for 690+65 shipping... ive seen some go for like 530+shipping tho, the RR's are a little cheaper.
 
In that price bracket I would get the Pitpro RR. Personal choice but the guys who have them seem really happy with them.
 
Yay! I won 2 Pitpro BR's! $560 each not including shipping though. Can't wait to get 'em!
 
geez 96 sounds like a good bike. You've had to fix all that stuff and you're still raving about that bike. And its held together with zip ties. Ha ha ha ha you guys make me laugh soooooo much. Owning a mini is about riding not working on it all day. funny.
 
owning a mini bike is for fucking around on when ur real bike has run outa fuel or beaten u up enough already
 
ok im looking for a bike to screw around at the offroad races. well when i go on ebay and type in pitpro in the search nothing comes up for pitbikes is it just me?
 
so im guessing the lifan engine is pretty good? do the all the aftermarket parts for the xr50 and crf50 bolt up like pipes etc.
 
they look like any other pit bike we can buy locally here


what a fuggin jip on the shipping! us$295 to ship it anywhere in the states.... america isnt much bigger than australia and we pay like au$60-150 to get a pitty from one side of the country to the other

haha and even costs you us$100 to pick it up!!! ebay is a crock of shit like that, everything sounds cheap till you include the shipping
 
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im in the US im in chino hills and the guy selling it is in chino right around the corner. so you think the quality of the cheaper bike is junk? if i had the money i would have a crf 50 but that out of my budget. worth it or not? what also do like the bbr pipes and stuff bolt up to the lifan engines do you now?
 
they look like any other pit bike we can buy locally here



haha and even costs you us$100 to pick it up!!! ebay is a crock of shit like that, everything sounds cheap till you include the shipping


i didnt even see that until you said something that is a crock of shit
 
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