did i really recieve my 155z?

[Cactus Jack]

Yeah , that's definitely a 155Z ... YX 150/160's have a triangular looking cam sprocket cover and the 155Z's have an oval cover ... the YX valve adjustment cover bolts are directly in line with each other in the middle of the cover .... NOT staggered diagonally on each end ... the YX cylinder fins are horiziontal on the flywheel side NOT vertical ... You got a GOOD deal on the engine ... IF you want a genuine Pitster motor with the Pitster symbols on the cases ... be prepared to fork out near $1000 for the privelege of having the silly symbols ...

Ken (DHZ) tries to sell things to us Aussies for the same price as listed on US websites BUT in AUD ... whereas MOST others look at what it would cost for us to personally buy from the US including shipping to Australia ... PER item ... THEN they charge that much PER item ... PLUS add their own extra profit ... IF not for people like DHZ ... we'd still be getting hammered with high prices like it used to be ... Remember ! ... The Yank Pitster engines are in USD ... $699 USD = $828 AUD ... Now add postage cost from the US and you'll start to see things more clearly ... Pitster and other companies get a hold of that EXACT same motor ... get the manufacturer to plonk their logo on the sides , use different types of paints to give that "more expensive" look ... then JACK the price up to make people THINK they're getting something special ... Clothes companies etc do the EXACT same thing ...

A case in point as a reference ... The "Flavour Wave Turbo" Convection ovens being flogged off on infomercials on TV by Mr T ... "Only" four or five easy payments of $50 + postage and handling ... We bought the exact same oven made by the same company from ALDI for $59 ... Joyce main had them on sale for $89 ... I nearly got sucked into paying $250 plus for one ... LOL ... BTW ... They're excellent to cook all sorts of stuff in ...

Everytime you buy something with a brand name ... the company has all sorts of employees with glorified self appointed positions that pay high wages with a company car and other "perks" supplied ... so YOU the customer have to pay those wages , the bosses BMW and mansion mortgage payments , his massage parlour costs for the week , etc etc etc ...

On the other hand ... the picture on a website , brochure or ebay listing forms the description of the item ... So IF the item you receive doesn't match the picture precisely ... then the item is "not as described" and technically ... You have been misled by deceptive trade practices ... All ebayers should show only pictures of the ACTUAL items they are selling to cover their own ass ... or at least explain to the buyer that "what they see is not necessarily what they'll get" ...

I'll be the first to admit that it REALLY does piss you off when what you receive isn't precisely what you saw in the pics and were led to believe you were getting ... I'll bet most sellers wouldn't be too happy if the money you sent them wasn't the right colour with the right pictures and numbers on each note ... OR if the check or money order you sent them wasn't worth the amount stated on them ...

 

[foolsp33d]

A case in point ... The "Flavour Wave Turbo" Convection ovens being flogged off on infomercials on TV with Mr T ... "Only" four or five easy payments of $50 + postage and handling ... We bought the exact same oven made by the same company from ALDI for $59 ... Joyce main had them on sale for $89 ... I nearly got sucked into paying $250 plus for one ... LOL ... BTW ... They're excellent to cook all sorts of stuff in ...

TOTALLY off topic.. but worth a mention i reckon...

I know what Im buying this weekend!!!!!!!! Does it REALLY ''cook in the flavour'' Cactus!? had any issues!??

 

[DvDRip]

YouTube - Mr. T on the Flavorwave Oven Infomercial
lol best infomercial ever!

so $60 at aldi? I'm gonna see if I can find one,
but cactus, does it actually work like they say? how's it go with steak, snags n potatoes? tried potato chips?
lol I can't believe I actually want something off danoz direct

 

[mrniceguy]

Hello eveyone. I just had my 155z delivered from DHZ and received a 155z in a GPX160 box. And it has 160 stamped on it. Motor looks exactly like the pic on the website. I have sent them an email asking what it is but i think this thread has answered the question for me.

 

[Hillz]

"miniriders answering your everyday ebay engine questions"

 

[Cactus Jack]

Use your own logics to find out the answer to most problems people ... For instance ... simply contact Pitster Pro Australia or US and ask for THEIR price on a GENUINE Pitster Pro 155Z ... specify that it MUST be the EXACT same engine as it comes supplied in a latest model Pitster (as if they've simply unbolted one from a NEW bike) ... and see what price they give you ... I doubt very much if they'll tell you $730 or $750 delivered to your door and even then I doubt if they'll send you the exact same engine as if removed from a new bike ... and I also doubt that it will come supplied in a carton that has Pitster Pro and the Pitster symbol on it ... OR even Zongshen ...

As for the "Flavorwave" ovens ... I mentioned them because I know there'd be a lot of single "lazy" blokes on here who might be interested ... Ha ha ha ... Yes they are excellent for cooking stuff in ... No spatter or smoke everywhere , it's very hard to burn anything , easy to clean up , the food tastes spot on and retains its' nutrition (unlike a Microwave) ... They're EXCELLENT for reconditioning Macca's fries that have gone cold ... LOL ... It makes them crispy on the outside again instead of floppy and rubbery like one's reheated in a microwave ... They're great for cooking pies , fish and any other frozen foods that stuff up in a microwave ... The main thing is that they remove a hell of a lot of fat from the food ... You outta see the amount that comes out of Macca's fries ...

You can't get them from ALDI ... They only get them in for sale every blue moon and they totally sell out within 1 hour from the store opening in most places ... We had to get a relative to get ours from the Central Coast because they were all sold out instantly at Greenhills East Maitland ... Homeart was selling cheaper looking copies but Joyce Main had the good ones recently ... The ovens from ALDI were LUMINA brand for $59 ... and they're precisely the same as the "Flavorwave" which need to be sold for $250 each to cover Mr T's exhorbitant fees ...

Yes foolspeed ... it would "appear" to be off topic ... but the plot was that cheap items get fancy brand names plonked onto them to make the unsuspecting public THINK they're getting something special and to make mega profits for the sellers who use all sorts of tactics to suck people in ... IF Mr T says it's cheap at the price then it MUST be ...

Remember how YX150's were selling for as high as $1500 each when they first came out ... DHZ had 'em for $1250 each ... NOW most people won't pay $600 each ... The 155Z is almost the same engine with all of the weak points , unreliability and faults supposedly sorted out ... including the gear ratios ...

 

[Cactus Jack]

I just looked up Pitster Pro Australia and found that they ARE ... DHZ ...

Pitster Pro - Motors

 

[SIKKO_X2]

hey cactus, i think your missing the point of this thread.
i was just concerned and annoyed because i didnt get what was pictured. if DHZ KNOWS that the engine you will recieve isnt what is pictured, then they should change the pictures!

and yes, DHZ owns PitsterPro in Australia

 

[Cactus Jack]

I'm missing the point of this thread ? I think the QUOTED statement below shows that I'm fully "With it" ...

QUOTE [On the other hand ... the picture on a website , brochure or ebay listing forms the description of the item ... So IF the item you receive doesn't match the picture precisely ... then the item is "not as described" and technically ... You have been misled by deceptive trade practices ... All ebayers should show only pictures of the ACTUAL items they are selling to cover their own ass ... or at least explain to the buyer that "what they see is not necessarily what they'll get" ...

I'll be the first to admit that it REALLY does piss you off when what you receive isn't precisely what you saw in the pics and were led to believe you were getting ... I'll bet most sellers wouldn't be too happy if the money you sent them wasn't the right colour with the right pictures and numbers on each note ... OR if the check or money order you sent them wasn't worth the amount stated on them ... ]QUOTE

Aside from that ... the actual heading of the thread states ... "did i really recieve my 155z?" ... That statement has been well and truly answered ... Now IF it was worded ... "Did I really receive a genuine Pitster Pro 155Z ? " ... But I've answered THAT too ... This thread is in a chat section ... chat means speak what's on your mind ... it's not a specific "Tech talk" thread ... Putting additional info into threads makes this site more interesting than the normal dreary repetitive stuff ... Remember ... we're not the ONLY one's reading this ... When I post something I'm thinking of the countless web cruisers who might drop by for a read ... hopefully some of them will find it interesting and return ...

Word chat meaning. Word chat definition. Free crossword dictionary.

IF you get the drift of the message I'm conveying ... The moral of the story IS ... Get wise and don't "THINK" that everyone else in the world THINKS the right way in your favour ... Never assume that you are definitely going to get what you think you are going to get every time you buy something ... ESPECIALLY sight unseen off the web ... You have to email the seller first to ask if you are going to get precisely what is pictured ... Then save EVERY single email sent and received ... and IF the deal goes skewiff ... copy and paste everything in order into an email and send it off to the seller , ebay , Paypal , and your credit card company along with pics of what you got ... and I guarantee that you'll get a full refund in a VERY short amount of time ... No seller or credit card company can dispute a "cut and dried" case ...

The only way to make things happen your way every time ... is to be ruthless and just reject any transaction that deviates from the description and pics in any way whatsoever ... and the only REAL way to do that is to pay by Paypal ... where satisfaction is guaranteed or you get a full refund (That's WHY a lot of sellers hate it) ... IF you pay via cash , bank deposit OR money order you're pretty well stuffed if the seller refuses to set things straight ...

I think you know what the answer is ... If you're not happy either send the motor back for a full refund ... or ask if he can get you a Pitster Pro / GPX clutch , cam and flywheel cover to pretty your motor up with so that it looks like the picture on his website or listing ... Then suggest to him that he change all of his pics to avoid misleading people ... (I wonder how many people will buy a Lifan 125 or 140 off the Pitster Pro site then get cheesed off when the engine they get doesn't look like a genuine GPX YX150 or 160 ... LOL) ...

As Snitchy says ... Ken will sort things out for you ... I'm going to buy one of those 155Z's off DHZ soon so at least now I'll know exactly what to expect ...

 

[mrniceguy]

Heres what i sent DHZ,

Hello,

You have sent me a motor that looks like a 155Z, but it is in a GPX160 box. It also has 160 stamped on it.
What is it?
Cheers

Well heres the response i received from DHZ....

Hi,

With the new 155Z engine, they all now stamped as 160cc engine, they are very different to the old GPX160 engine, which the cam side cover, valve cover and cylinder are all look total different.

The engine you have now is the best quality engine currently on the market

Best Regards,

DHZ Mini Moto

 

[Hillz]

sounds like DHZ has to pull his finger out & change the listing

 

[daimojay]

WOW all that just because it has a differant very special and illuminating timing cover and clutch cover...

no pitster logos = atleast a loss of 2-3hp.

(sorry, just amazing that this guy is THAT pissed about it. its a 155Z for a BRILLIANT price (read almost half).... be happy)

 

[Cactus Jack]

That about sums it up Damo ... but to avoid any hassles Ken should make it quite clear that the engine you're getting isn't gunna have the PP symbol on the cases ...

I was waiting for someone to pick up on this

YX 150/160's have 3 bolts on the cam sprocket cover NOT 4

...

BTW .. Did your YX150 have the ball bearing on the countershaft and grenade it ? ... I'm trying to decide if I should run my YX150 with one of those decomp cams or just sell it new and buy a 155Z ...

 

[sixeven]

get over it sikko or should it be sook oh. Its a 155z. Its a little different than the pic. Go ahead and order one from pitster in the US and make sure you specify the PP covers and stuff. Hand over another 500 beans and then start whining about it. Geez you guys get way too emotional about little things. Ever heard the saying dont cry over spilt milk?

 

[headsmess]

Originally Posted by Cactus Jack
A case in point ... The "Flavour Wave Turbo" Convection ovens being flogged off on infomercials on TV with Mr T ... "Only" four or five easy payments of $50 + postage and handling ... We bought the exact same oven made by the same company from ALDI for $59 ... Joyce main had them on sale for $89 ... I nearly got sucked into paying $250 plus for one ... LOL ... BTW ... They're excellent to cook all sorts of stuff in ...TOTALLY off topic.. but worth a mention i reckon...

I know what Im buying this weekend!!!!!!!! Does it REALLY ''cook in the flavour'' Cactus!? had any issues!??

strangely the same thing i picked up on

i got one from Aldis and saw the exact same thing in a shop the next week for 199..

only gripe is with pizzas....

 

[daimojay]

..BTW .. Did your YX150 have the ball bearing on the countershaft and grenade it ? ... I'm trying to decide if I should run my YX150 with one of those decomp cams or just sell it new and buy a 155Z ...

My yx150 didnt grenade

just upgraded to the 155Z

 

[mrniceguy]

Heres another question i asked them...
"I just bought the 155Z off you also and there appears to be more wires coming out of the motor than there is wires on the harness to attach to??? How does it work??
Cheers"

The reply...
"the extra wire is for light

Best Regards"

 

[SnItChY]

Heres another question i asked them...
"I just bought the 155Z off you also and there appears to be more wires coming out of the motor than there is wires on the harness to attach to??? How does it work??
Cheers"

The reply...
"the extra wire is for light

Best Regards"

yes and there correct , i assume the wire your talking about are white .yellow and green with red stripe ? if so the answer you received is correct

reading through the thread again i feel Ken has done no wrong here ,i would have asked the same questions at the start as has been, but then reading his responce i would have been satisfied i got what i paid for

tho it doesnt quiet match the picks the cam cover and such tells you it is the correct motor

Best of luck

 

[SIKKO_X2]

it looks like some people are getting extremely cranky about this. if you havnt noticed i havnt replied to this thread very much because my question was answered. i wasnt sure if it was a 155z or not and you guys verified that so thanks. my only problem after that was that ken should probably change the picture of the item if he knows that the covers are different. im not saying that i wanna go out and spend more money on covers, im just saying that he should change the picture or atleast say that it doesnt look exactly like what is in the pic

 

[SnItChY]

it looks like some people are getting extremely cranky about this. if you havnt noticed i havnt replied to this thread very much because my question was answered. i wasnt sure if it was a 155z or not and you guys verified that so thanks. my only problem after that was that ken should probably change the picture of the item if he knows that the covers are different. im not saying that i wanna go out and spend more money on covers, im just saying that he should change the picture or atleast say that it doesnt look exactly like what is in the pic

yes i would agree on that 1


i didnt think ppl were getting cranky tho ,but i do see where your coming from

how does the motor go i'm very interested ,wouldnt mind 1 off these for my zed