Dirt Bikez & Pocket B
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yes the bike i posted up is made in same factory as proverts!!
Mack said:Yes the one DB & PB posted is the better buy. It is not a downgraded or downspecced AGB 29 as made by Apollo, not even close. How could it be when it has a better engine with a better clutch position, so can start in any gear, also means you can run a rotor kit and many other hop up parts. Its twinspar frame is heaps better. The Apollo ones are just thin three sided channel. The swingarm is way better and alloy. Whereas the elstar is still thin mild steel and has a poor shock mount. The pit bike runs a heavier gold chain whereas the elstar still runs the old lighter mega stretchy chain. The elstar still has the thin crappy cast footpegs. The plastics on the Apollo built bikes is changing with every model so good luck finding some in 18 months. The sprockets and most parts for apollos are not interchangable with mainstream fiddys. The electrics have been completely failing on people everywhere and the only parts that are improving on the Apollos are forks, rims, rear shock, brake lever and brakes cause they finally started using the same parts the pit bike factorys where using from the beginning.
BTW Most of the fake mikuni's were on Apollo bikes. That pitbike posted before would have Mikuni-Japan stamped on the side of the slide body and be a great carb.
Mack said:Yes the one DB & PB posted is the better buy. It is not a downgraded or downspecced AGB 29 as made by Apollo, not even close. How could it be when it has a better engine with a better clutch position, so can start in any gear, also means you can run a rotor kit and many other hop up parts. Its twinspar frame is heaps better. The Apollo ones are just thin three sided channel. The swingarm is way better and alloy. Whereas the elstar is still thin mild steel and has a poor shock mount. The pit bike runs a heavier gold chain whereas the elstar still runs the old lighter mega stretchy chain. The elstar still has the thin crappy cast footpegs. The plastics on the Apollo built bikes is changing with every model so good luck finding some in 18 months. The sprockets and most parts for apollos are not interchangable with mainstream fiddys. The electrics have been completely failing on people everywhere and the only parts that are improving on the Apollos are forks, rims, rear shock, brake lever and brakes cause they finally started using the same parts the pit bike factorys where using from the beginning.
BTW Most of the fake mikuni's were on Apollo bikes. That pitbike posted before would have Mikuni-Japan stamped on the side of the slide body and be a great carb.
You would see he wants to possibly jump this thing and may want to race. I could never reccommend current Apollo's over a pitbike like the one BD&PB posted for the same money. Thats my opinion and I'm entitled to it. I'm not selling anything so am posting here without bias. I usually have guided people towards BSE built bikes or similar which are sold under various names by major distributors in US and Europe and are a true copy of a BBR modded CRF. The odd one has been popping up and they are under $1000. The engines have been proven in motard and mx racing in the states and Europe and many hop up parts are available. We'd have a raging fiddy scene here too if our importers had of not gone for maximum profit margin and imported the cheapest bikes available from the Apollo bicycle factory. See another main aspect of all this is that guys are going to want to build on their bikes. They always do. Already their starting to ask on this forum about upgrading. So what upgrades can you offer the apollo bike rider? Any aftermarket swingers that fit? No, need aftermarket frame. Ok got one, now plastics dont fit. Get crf plastics. Motor no good and no upgrades, replace with Lifan,Zonger or Jialing. Seat doesn't fit, get new seat. What do you end up with. Same thing we got in the first place which can be built to any level we like, at any time we like and be competative with top honda's,kwaka's and suzies in any class for a third the price.so what makes that other ebay bike better. eg does it have stronger frame or what. i would of thought the one i posted would have been stronger.
i mainly want to use it for bashing around a farm but maybe ocasaly take it to a track like south morang. and most of all it has to be cheap i only have around $900. what do u guys spend on maitance.
i wont be woriying about hotting it up.
cheers.
thanks to every one you guys help out people starting off a lot
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