The complete opposite to a pitbike genius

[Sammy_J]

G'day all, new to the forum. New to motorbikes etc. I dont know a thing about motorbikes, never owned one nothing. But my mrs is well on her way to having a child and i really want HER to be into motorbikes so i was looking at getting myself just a pitty to show myself the ropes first. But im not sure which bike to buy. I have been looking around ebay and my budget is aound the 700 give or take, So not a big budget. I have done some research on the lifan and the ducar engines (lifan seems to be the engine for me...hassles free apparently) but cant seem to find anything on the YX 4 STROKE BIG BORE ENGINE. Just wondering if anyone knows anything about these engines.

thanks guys!

 

[bulldog93]

Welcome to miniriders.

Have a look at pitpro and DHZ they are the best eBay bikes:
Pitpro: eBay Australia Shop - ONLINEBIKESNBITS: Dirt Bikes, Pit Pro, Fast ACe
DHZ: eBay Australia Shop - DHZ MINI MOTO: ENGINE PARTS, WHEELS TYRE, CONTROLS CABLE

Lifan and YX/GPX engines are the best enignes in pitbikes so you'll have a good engine, they'll have there faults like every engine does but the are tops for there dollar. What size motor are you planning on getting (50,90,110,125,140 or 150)? do you want manual or semi-auto?

 

[Sammy_J]

awsome mate, im looking at getting anything from 125cc upwards it doesnt bother me. Wanting a manual. Was watching a "ATOMIK NITROUS 125CC PIT DIRT BIKE MOTOR THUMPSTAR". It went for 610$ so thought that was a pretty good deal. But the bigger motor i get get for my money the better. These brand of bikes alright?

 

[bulldog93]

I wouldn't recomend getting Atomik, TDR and Lei motors as they're the bottom of the line bikes. It would be in best interests to save up and get a Pitpro or DHZ becuase they're 100x better than Atomik, TDR and Lei motors. It'll save you money in the long run by not having to fix little things (gear shifter, brake levers, footpegs, clutch lever ect).
Although the Atomik nitrous is the "best" Atomik (so i hear) it wouldn't be any where as good in reliablity and build strangth of DHZ and Pitpro.

 

[Dreadful]

welcome to the site mate ..... Bulldog is on the gas go the dhz from Ken .... tell him we sent ya

 

[Sammy_J]

if i could find a pitpro that i could bid on it would be alright, just that i hate paying what people want on ebay and the only ones i can find are buy it now. There is one on there its a 125cc lifum pitro 125 and its 800$ buy itnow.All the others are 1k+.

2009 125cc RR PITPRO, DIRT BIKE THUMPSTAR PIT TRAIL - eBay Other Trail Bikes, Trail Bikes, Motorcycles, Cars, Bikes, Boats. (end time 30-Aug-09 21:00:00 AEST)

tell me what u think and if this one would be better than a atomic nitro

 

[mrbrnz]

I wouldn't recomend getting Atomik, TDR and Lei motors as they're the bottom of the line bikes. It would be in best interests to save up and get a Pitpro or DHZ becuase they're 100x better than Atomik, TDR and Lei motors. It'll save you money in the long run by not having to fix little things (gear shifter, brake levers, footpegs, clutch lever ect).
Although the Atomik nitrous is the "best" Atomik (so i hear) it wouldn't be any where as good in reliablity and build strangth of DHZ and Pitpro.

Have you actually had a closer look at the latest atomik nitrous? As far as I can tell it's the same frame as the DHZ and pitpro, please don't say it's the same as a LEi, my brother in law just bought one and it's a piece of ****, nothing like the atomik.
Maybe all this misinformation is good for the consumer though, keeps the prices of atomiks down.

 

[thump*140]

have a closer look at the DHZ listings... there should be a Lifan 125 powered "Pro125" around $800...
That's where i'd be spending my money...
and yeah, a pitpro would be a far better bike than an Atomik nitrous, despite the reduction in engine capacity

 

[thump*140]

Have you actually had a closer look at the latest atomik nitrous? As far as I can tell it's the same frame as the DHZ and pitpro, please don't say it's the same as a LEi, my brother in law just bought one and it's a piece of ****, nothing like the atomik.
Maybe all this misinformation is good for the consumer though, keeps the prices of atomiks down.

from what i can see, the pitpro and atomik run *similar* but not identical trellis frames. The DHZ bikes run a twin-tube trellis frame, whereas the Pitpro and Atomik run a single-tube trellis frame. My money would be on the twin-tube being a bit stronger. more lateral as well as longitudinal rigidity and strength...
That's not to say the frames on the Pitpro and Atomik are gay... just not identical, nor as strong as the DHZ frames...

You do make a good point on misinformation on the Nitrous and Atomiks in general. Hence the reason you should do a review on your Nitrous.... heh heh...
sorry off topic...

Sammy, i'd still go with the pitpro or DHZ however.... Those two HAVE earnt their reputations... Atomik are trying to build theirs... and not always for the win...

 

[mrbrnz]

the dpro125 sells for 955 buy it now, but looking at the previous listings, they accepted an offer of $800 on it.

 

[Dreadful]

I'd never buy an Atomic on principle .... the company is owned by greedy porsche driving ******s that don't give a toss about the mini scene ... other than what they can rape from it.

They put NOTHING back in .....no race team ... no r&d.... no events or races ..... no love


Just my opinion ...... but one that's shared by many in the industry

 

[thump*140]

Hence the reason so many of us deal with Ken, and are happy to promote him. Quite often speaking to him directly, will give you an awesome deal. He's one of few sellers/dealers out there who actually provides something that resembles "customer service" and value for money...

 

[DvDRip]

Hence the reason so many of us deal with Ken, and are happy to promote him. Quite often speaking to him directly, will give you an awesome deal. He's one of few sellers/dealers out there who actually provides something that resembles "customer service" and value for money...

+1 He's a ripper of a bloke and runs an honest buissness.

Can't say the same for s#!tpro, atomik, tdr, lei. Although s#!tpro aren't too bad, just don't buy their spare parts

 

[mrbrnz]

twin tube? as in the neck area? cause mine as twin tubes there. Its cool if you own a nitrous and think it's ****, however I haven't heard that yet, all I've seen is people who don't own them and haven't inspected them close up saying they're ****, because if you had seen or ridden it you wouldn't be bagging it out like that. As I said I can't speak for all atomiks but the one in MY garage is well built and has stood up fine.

 

[coolmodee01]

ok them

i seen built and ridden the new atomik nitrous and out of the box it's uncomfortable and dodgy.

motor goes good

suspension is rubbish i can hold it to the ground just standing there it has no adjustment and i dont think oil will fix em
the bottom tube of the trelis frame only runs to the back of the toptube and not all the way down to the swingarm mount like the dhz this hasn't caused a problem for my mate he doesn't jump it but does take from cradle strength and rigidity

the dhz 125 in the d-pro anyway cracks as hard as any 140 will

ergo wise the dhz is a much better ride

yes have ridden both and well i'll take my ciniworx over both of em

 

[Dreadful]

twin tube? as in the neck area? cause mine as twin tubes there. Its cool if you own a nitrous and think it's ****, however I haven't heard that yet, all I've seen is people who don't own them and haven't inspected them close up saying they're ****, because if you had seen or ridden it you wouldn't be bagging it out like that. As I said I can't speak for all atomiks but the one in MY garage is well built and has stood up fine.

Sorry mate but you don't need to own a bike to have an opinion ... as a staffer for the 50sbrotherhood I've been present at industry shoot outs were atomiks were run against all the other brands by the best riders in aus on the same track and my opinion is formed from ther feedback and the few I've thrown a leg over .... we do it every year ...( in fact this years test is going down at reefy's next week ) and Atomik have come up short at every test ... that's just the news I'm not having a go .... you don't have any reference because what's in your garage is all you know .... so that's understandable .... I've seen them tested and come up short ... and the ones I have ridden have not impressed me at all .... so sorry mate I have ridden and inspected them up close and still think they are the bottom of the ladder .....besides

I was talking about their lack of involvement or support to and in the industry as my main motivation towards steering clear of them .... because they ARE inner city , latte drinking , porshe driving ******s .... and that's enough for me .

 

[mrbrnz]

no need to be sorry, thats your opinion. Everyones entitled to have one, I just don't like when people state their opinions as fact, if you've ridden one then your opinion of them is valid. If you're going off what you've heard off a mates mates mate, well then I don't wanna hear it.
Would I buy one to race? of course not.. For the everyday person who just wants a cheap bike that will last a fair amount of time I think it's worth the money spent though. It looks fairly well engineered and seems safe enough compared to the frame on the Lei XR I seen on a mates bike.. now that looks like it'll snap.

For me, I never had a pit bike before so I didn't want to spend too much on a first bike to figure out I didn't like it. If I had to buy one again though I think I'd still get the atomik. If I could get a dhz or pitpro for the same price I'd get them also. If moneys not an issue then there isn't a reason to get any of those brands..
The average rider couldn't tell which bike they were on I'm pretty sure, as long as parts don't fall off or break then it's good enough. We'll see how good their customer service is after I send them this video of my noisy engine. Also. I wouldn't be surprised if most of these bikes came out of the same factory anyway..

 

[Atomik-Rider140]

I wouldn't recomend getting Atomik, TDR and Lei motors as they're the bottom of the line bikes. It would be in best interests to save up and get a Pitpro or DHZ becuase they're 100x better than Atomik, TDR and Lei motors. It'll save you money in the long run by not having to fix little things (gear shifter, brake levers, footpegs, clutch lever ect).
Although the Atomik nitrous is the "best" Atomik (so i hear) it wouldn't be any where as good in reliablity and build strangth of DHZ and Pitpro.

the latest Atomik nitrous' are built almost identically to the Pitpro 125-140xr and use the same Lifan motors. Atomiks now i think are at the same standards as the pitpro's as i own an Atomik and a mate owns a pitpro 140xr and they almost have the same parts, power, reliabiltity etc. his also experienced a few problems. Atomik nitrous would be the go for you mate, pitpro may be a bit too expensive as they are Buy it Now and dont really see the difference at all. Oh and you could pick up a deal on DHZ bikes as they are good people to deal with, answer your problems with your bike and accept good offers (I got my engine off them for $500 when it retails for $585-599).

 

[t00l]

Hopefully not too far away I will get my DHZ 140 and try find the time to do a nice hard and picture plentiful review against the atomik 140 nitrous, differences, build quality, speed etc

just looking at pictures though id still save up that 100$ more and stick it into a DHZ!
Send Ken and email and he can knock off a fair bit!

If your worried about spending something your not going to like, at least you will get more money back on the DHZ than the atomik, and unless you have a bad fall first up it's hard to get sick of

 

[Atomik-Rider140]

We know that DHZ's are built differently then Atomiks and are better, but someone should do a review for the pitpro 140xr and the atomik nitrous 140, they are the two bikes that seem identical and have the same motors and performance.