Braaap Pro 190

[gottagetacheaperhobby]

nah mate its all electronic, i plug wires in and they reckon it advances the timing, and in the daytona manual i read, it said advancing the timing gives more power higher in the rev range thats why i thought it did...

 

[my67xr]

ok so they don't have the Adjustable Outer Rotor Kit fitted standard any more ?
this is where you set your base timing, see the slots in the Stator backing plate, that is the adjustment

 

[xLOCOx]

 

[gottagetacheaperhobby]

well tbh i hadnt even looked at that, im looking at the plug and play advances available through the cdi.......no doubt i can do it that way but what advantage is there in doing something a way that will take twenty mins when in 2 minutes i can plug two wires in and im done...... dont no what that pics about either xLOCOx....

 

[gottagetacheaperhobby]

page 18 will show you what i mean....
http://mypitbike.ru/downloads/DaytonaAnima190.pdf

 

[gottagetacheaperhobby]

page 18 will show you what i mean....
http://mypitbike.ru/downloads/DaytonaAnima190.pdf

 

[xLOCOx]

ohh your talking about the rotor you can change the higher rpm limiter! i see...

 

[gottagetacheaperhobby]

i have a 3 higher rev limits available and 4 timing settings available from the cdi to select.....

 

[xLOCOx]

i have a 3 higher rev limits available and 4 timing settings available from the cdi to select.....

so many options!!!! lol

 

[gottagetacheaperhobby]

lol yep i definately want to up the rev limit to atleast make the 13000 rpm redline, its on 11 something now. im guessing i could up the timing selection by one with out any major consequences. interesting that daytona state increasing the timing increases the torque output higher in the rev range but craig said its the opposite. i'd trust evrything craig has to say, just weird why daytona are talking poo

 

[gottagetacheaperhobby]

sooooo, i have just had a rather nasty thing happen, the bloody thing dropped out off 4th on me today........ am i up for new shift fork? it happened once, i clutched it, pulled up on the shifter and it re selected 4th and didnt drop it again, although i was a lot gentler on the throttle coming home. i read on planetmini's that it could be a loose "shift star" what ever that is, i no nothing about bottom end

 

[my67xr]

ok, looked at that Daytona 190 PDF,
yours uses a different stator to the Daytona 150
so it is not adjustable at the stator, wonder why thy did that ?
both the 150 and 190 have the adjustable CDI,
yeah i know how swapping the wires around can change the settings with timing etc there

i haven't read Daytonas' timing data,
but in most engines, advancing the timing will bring on the power earlier in the rev range, and it drops off earlier at higher rpms.

maybe they have wired the cdi so you are able to swap the wires to lift the rev limits, and it slightly changes the timing curve at the same time ?
might need Nickv1980, or rotn50 to explain it ?

 

[gottagetacheaperhobby]

i didnt even no they were different learn something new everyday. in my case around 10 times a day did you see my post above yours

 

[gottagetacheaperhobby]

so the gear shift shaft has about 2/3mm play in and out, could that be the cause of my problem? if it needs anything major done to the bottom end il probably pay someone to do it i really dont want to stuff it up...... but if its a easy fix il attempt it myself

 

[my67xr]

nah the shift lever shaft can have a bit of play in them

there is one shift drum bolt above the front sprocket behind the rubber bung

the other is above the clutch,
the side cover and possibly the clutch may need to come off to get to it
this is of a Z155HO, it has a screw there.

 

[gottagetacheaperhobby]

well at least i sort of no what to look for il take pics when i do it and post em up

 

[stoozo]

well at least i sort of no what to look for il take pics when i do it and post em up

Goddamn gearbox's.....spent all afternoon playing with a 125 gearbox....best chewed out gear I have seen in a while!!!

There was certainly no oil pumping around....DONT BREAK this engine seriously I WILL CRY....Did you read the warning at the bottom of page 18??

WARNING
USE ADVANCE TIMING GIVES HIGH TEMPERATURE TO ENGINE.
SERIOUS DAMAGE WILL OCCURE IN THE ENGINE BY ABNORMAL COMBUSTION.

 

[gottagetacheaperhobby]

that looks nasty lol. yeah i read that manual pretty well, im going to get a oil temp sensor kit to put on it i reckon so i can keep a close eye on that temp. hopefully its nothing major with this gear problem, i cant afford to fix it atm, not if im to finish the other two bikes anyway!!!

 

[stoozo]

that looks nasty lol. yeah i read that manual pretty well, im going to get a oil temp sensor kit to put on it i reckon so i can keep a close eye on that temp. hopefully its nothing major with this gear problem, i cant afford to fix it atm, not if im to finish the other two bikes anyway!!!

Yeah look after it mate! No point in destroying a motor worth that much just for an extra 1hp!! Unless your sponsors are going to pay for a new one for the next race! Its still a China engine...be nice to it and it will serve you well!

 

[gottagetacheaperhobby]

so im just trying to double check after my disaaster with the keihin jets i ordered last time, oko mains jets will work fine in my pe28 yeah? because trying to find a genuine keihin hex jet kit in australia is proving far harder and more expensive than the oko jets....