Did you get ripped off

[Truth]

Could I get an update from someone where Bulldog left off, please. I can't see it for myself

 

[bulldog93]

"We only have one future, and it will be made of our dreams, if we have the courage to challenge convention."

Soichiro Honda

^^Nice quote^^

LOL, well I have read all of this, the post here and on that Aussie forum. I don't want to sound dumb, but I still really don't know what this is all about? Did someone buy a bike and think they over paid? Or is this a dealer thing?

LOL, well I have read all of this, the post here and on that Aussie forum. I don't want to sound dumb, but I still really don't know what this is all about? Did someone buy a bike and think they over paid? Or is this a dealer thing?

LOL don't feel bad i dont get it either.

Here are a few quotes from MR:

Originally Posted by Dreadful
Well I spent half the night getting pms from blackwoodz .... here's a sample
Originally Posted by Pitster Rider
I am a dealer. How do you want me to prove this.
No worries though mate. I will not be back. The only I came here in the first place is because some jacked up hill billy trying to ruin a company just because he doesn;t get what he wants from them....Its called internet extortion.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^
to which I replied
Rubbish I matched your IP and your email is a dead give away ... so don't p#ss in my pocket and tell me it's raining mate ... you are well known on planet minis .... not as a dealer and not much as a rider either I hear .... so again don't insult me .
As for not coming back ?
Don't let the door hit you on the way out .
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^

So we have crew running around lying and an importer caught shafting his dealers ?
Way to to destroy your credability Pitster U.S, see how that goes for ya's in a month or two as this becomes common knowledge ....
didn't have enough of the market already huh?
had to chuck em out the door at the expense of your dealers huh?
Man those guys have families and were already doing it tough due to the economy .... they are the ones who got you where you are and you're snaking sales off em. Not only is this business suicide it's also just about as low as ya get in my books so all I'd say at this point is reap the whirlwind you genius
If someone comes on a prooves pitsters critics wrong I'll happily eat my words but we still have a thing called freedom of speech over here ...remember that? you guys used to be big on it too..... on this sight people can express their opinions without fear of the corperate censorship that seems to have raised it's ugly head on PM ....DON'T START ME ON WHAT THAT DOES TO PM'S CREDABILITY....and yes some have come here from PM because of said censorship and so far they have made a strong case.As you can see by the pm I posted all I've heard from the other side is lies .... we're Australian .... we call em as we see em, it's in our nature ... we also like to give everyone a "fair go" so I'd like to invite Pitster US to reply if they are at all concerned over these allegations ....
To all our American friends you're welcome here and I can ensure you there will be no censorship here ....

we just love pitbikes too much to be bought ..... and companies over here know it

Originally Posted by DvDRip
nice work BD93! I'm surprised your PM thread isn't deleted yet.

As much as I'd like to stay out of this one I just wanna say Pitster AUS are the Best Pitbike dealer in AUS, no-matter what you ride Ken will go out of his way to help you and supply you with parts at a great price and quick delivery....
It's sad to hear that PM is being moderated with Pitster US's best interests in mind, and that instead of addressing any issues customers may have they just try to cover it up and pretend it never happened, customer service is very important in the pitbike market, as is value for money and being able to trust your dealer/parts supplier.... if pitster US keep carrying on like this they will lose their customers respect and someone else will rise up and take their place ...

Read carefully, intently and take it in. You'll then get the picture.

this is great it has actually been going on for years and that is why you see so many dealers/supporters come and go for pitster. keep it clean

of course you would say that

you have already been bought out

oh an Pitster US your quick to delete threads on here that concern the quality of your product but your not too worried about these allegations?

whats the go its 100% true?

well i suppose this post will just get deleted as well and im sort of suprised this thread is still here

hahahha i love drama!!!!!!!

I never lied to those guys. as for getting pms all night. I think I sent him 3 this morning eastern time zone that were all about two to three lines long.

What is your intent here? Terry has stated what his deal was. Yes I feel this may or may not have been a legit deal but hearsay will not stand up in any court room. Maybe Pitster needs to make some phone calls to their attorneys for slander suits. Either way this is what takes all the fun right out of the minbike market for me.

I had told myself I would not even post in this thread but as you make it your mission to bring me into it I guess I will till this as so many of these posting are locked.

BTW....you bloke their is no such thing as freedom of speech in a privately operated forum here or in the land down under.

There is in our Forum actually...

Thats all our forum is. So suck it up you pussy. I agree with every thing Dreadful said EVRYTHING!!

My intent is to find out about these alegations. What is yours?

I'm somewhat lost on this..

My impression is that Pitster has a set price that his dealers can sell at and that he will than go and sell in their territories for less than dealer price and/or the dealers fixed price?

Can someone set me straight on this!

Here you go. I just have to quote one more thing.

 

[Truth]

Thank you very much!

 

[sean01]

yep it would be good to hear the other side of the story from PP in the states right about now...
not that thats gonna happen tho...

 

[bulldog93]

Here is an update:

Just to let you all now that EVERY post including mine are beeing quoted

Yes pitster are selling direct to people for cheaper then what there selling to dealers... so dealers are getting suckered bad

y cant we all just get along! lol

p.s. ride honda

when they undercut their vendors how do the pitster shops make any money to stay open and sell bikes.... when in utah their selling bikes way below dealer cost!!!

what do u guys expect? take a damn economics class. china holds business way over any contract. this is why honda, yamaha etc.. has control over there products but u guys buy these china machines with no rules or a set of customized rules for each buyer and if a joe from the street called china they would ship them a container and with a new and different set of rules...

Not the point. The point is PP USA is screwing over many of his hardworking dealers. Have a read through all the pages on MR.

because "dealer cost" is not "actual" cost.... have you ever spent five minutes time and looked at the chinese websites selling the bikes produced from the same fatories Pitsters are??? and looked at how much they actually cost??? I know that this is a bit of comparing apples to oranges because Pitster has direct contact and control of what they are producing, or paying to be produced.... this may also be a deterant to Pitster....

My beef is that most of their "business" these days seems to be to people in the complete bike market, then have given little support to a customer after the purchase.... This may only be true in my neck of the woods, but I have seen and been a part of a lot of it... I have even heard that Pitster has had reluctance in selling a rollers or specific pieces thereof to dealers... which really hurts a dealers his/hers business through lack of customer support.

all in all: Pitster is corporate and maintains income as opposed to support for their dealers.... I know business is "dog eat dog" but I have witnessed when customers have suffered from this, me being one of them.

Well it looks like the typical Pitster haters are at it again, nice work boys. It really is sad to see that your life is so unproductive that you must try to bash and find away to tear down our business. I guess to each there own. But it sad that Planet minis has become what it is, and that it is allowed for other non Pitster Pro vendors to jump in and bash Pitster Pro any chance they get. You know who you are.

This is completely blown WAY out of propartion, Pitster Pro USA does not sale bikes to AU or another country were a EXCLUSIVE PITSTER PRO importer are established! DHZ is a great EXCLUSIVE Importer in AU and has been working with us for many yrs. Each Importer is listed on our USA website so customers can contact and get the local service they need.

Pitster Pro has REAL dealers all over the USA and lists them on our live dealer locater. We support all Pitster Pro dealers who carry stock and promote the product in a positive way. However if a dealer is not listed within a 150 miles we at Pitster Pro do have the rights to serve the customers or establish a dealer in the area.

We do not send a customer to a DROP SHIP dealer who has NO STOCK ON HAND AND OFFERS NO SERVICE TO THE CUSTOMER! The REAL ( not fake made up customer as in this case ) would prefer to deal directly with us then a drop ship dealer who works from there home and carries NO STOCK!! Hence the reason why WE DON'T HAVE DROP SHIP DEALERS ANY LONGER!!

This so called customer was a fake person trying to decieve us, and in fact NEVER purchased a bike! However Pitster Pro has sold well over 12,000 bikers WORLDS WIDE through its many supporting Pitster Pro Importers and dealers, and will continue to expand our dealer network and Importers world wide!

For all you haters, it really is getting old!! As for Pitster Pro WE ARE NOT GOING AWAY and will continue to support the many dealers and riders who we work with world wide.

Thank you.

 

[Truth]

Well I'm not a fake person and was not trying to decieve anyone. I would have been a customer until I witnessed how they treated their dealers and I saw the threads about problems disappear.

I'm glad I didn't buy the bike as I had intended.

 

[bulldog93]

Update Hahahahahaha

Yea i agree theres not something right with pitster pro... orderd a bike in december, had sale prices on the website and when i got on the phone with them they kept changing the prices on the bikes.. finally got the bike ordered and i kept asking for a tracking #, never would give me one, but then when he gave me one finally, i found out he turned the shipping around on the bike after it was half way here, charged me for turn around shipping on my credit card...he told me that nothin he did was going to make me happy and thats the reason why he turned it around... but all i wanted was a tracking #, But i Had to contact my bank b/c of the transactions he was putting on my card, took about 3 weeks to get my 3grand back... then he went on emailing me wanting to cover everything up on the posts i made...to get them all deleted. But thats the first time and last time i am going to deal with pitster pro bc of the BS they were pulling.

WOW! PITSTER!

I thought this was supposed to stay away from personal attacks, but if you must know...

yes my days are very unproductive doing human cancer genetics research

it is unfortunate that a company of your "caliber" must deter from the questions being proposed and the "slander" accusations against you but lumping a substancial amount of the pitbike world/sport/customers into a Pitster haters group.... this really shows a lack of intelligence by stereotyping....

Actually we are more then happy to support any customer and the indusrty, hence we have been doing this for many yrs and have many happy customers all over the world!! If you have a Pitster or need parts for any other bike we are happy to help you do. We do this every day 9-5 Mtn m-f! We are not some guy working out of a house trying to make a few quick bucks, or some guy doing this on "the side" like some many!!

1) IF you read the MR thread you would've relised we knew it was you hence why Iposted it here as the bloke (Truth) was banned from PM is that correct?

2) Aus has only 1 PP importer and it's cheapier to go through him then to get 1 bike off you. Hence why we don't have this problem here

3) Ken (DHZ, PP) is one of the most loyal pitbike dealers you'll meet and I'm prod to surport him.

WOW! PITSTER!

I thought this was supposed to stay away from personal attacks, but if you must know...

yes my days are very unproductive doing human cancer genetics research

it is unfortunate that a company of your "caliber" must deter from the questions being proposed and the "slander" accusations against you but lumping a substancial amount of the pitbike world/sport/customers into a Pitster haters group.... this really shows a lack of intelligence by stereotyping....

I hope things are well with you in OHIO, home of the "HE MAN PITSTER HATERS", lol. I would guess if I checked your Ip address I would know just who you are too. Have a nice day.

For those of you that need Pit Pike parts and accessories and Pitster Pro info and help. You know were to find us.

Thanks

Speaking of slander!!! lol WOW! once again an attempt to attack someone else as opposed to address the topics at hand???

once again a very poor showing of intelligence.... but I won't attack that in slander....

some of the best companies in the world began as a side job.... or out of a home. This doesn't make them any better or inferior to you. My reasons for refusing to do business with you and spend the 10k or so I spent last year on this addiction is the poor support I have recieved and the dealers in my area.

 

[Truth]

My name was Keele81 here, there, every where. I changed it to Truth after being called a liar for pointing out what was going on. I thought it would cut down on me getting bashed for standing up against what I feel is wrong, so much for that. I'm a proud person and don't take kindly to having my integrity insulted. If I was trying to be deceptive in anyway why would I admit that.


Why I was selling off all my stuff, look at my posts in the classified section on PM (keele81)I was going to buy a lxr.

 

[sean01]

has anyone here in australia bought or had a quote for Pitster Pro parts from the states?
if so post it up on the planet minis thread please...

 

[bulldog93]

I have bought almost all of my new motorcycles (Honda Yamaha Kawasaki) from the same dealer for over 15 years. Even when he did not have the brand or specific model that I wanted, he jumped through hoops to get me what I was looking for and for little or no overhead. To think if I could of had a chance just to get on a Yamaha corporate website and order a bike directly from the manufacturer it would have alienated me away from the great supporters of the sport called dealers. Local dealers assit the manufacturers in more ways than just selling their products. They support the sport and assist the buyer in many more ways than that can be taken care of thru a website or over the phone. I like to see the person I am talking too when I am purchasing a new vehicle. It helps me decide if I am making a good decision or not. I have to say that my friend (dealer) currently does not sell new Japanese motorcycles anymore (I am sad) he sells Hyosung's and used bikes of all models but he was the 1st person I went to when I wanted to buy my '08 Yamaha WR250X. He went way beyond my expectations and set me up a great deal on the bike at a Los Angeles Yamaha dealer. THIS IS WHAT IT IS ABOUT PEOPLE!!!!!!!! Good manufacturers know they need people to promote their products in order to stay alive. Consumers like it when they can go to their LOCAL dealer and get service, parts, bikes, a reach around, shoot the bull..etc.....ya get where I am coming from.......to me really a bike is a bike is a bike...there are great ones and then there are true pos.....ya get what ya pay for....that goes for material and/or customer service......sorry for ranting..I do not do it often....but I feel this should have been said...just my opinion.....I will now wait for the daggers

1) IF you read the MR thread you would've relised we knew it was you hence why Iposted it here as the bloke (Truth) was banned from PM is that correct?

2) Aus has only 1 PP importer and it's cheapier to go through him then to get 1 bike off you. Hence why we don't have this problem here

3) Ken (DHZ, PP) is one of the most loyal pitbike dealers you'll meet and I'm prod to surport him.

1)I dont ban people from PM that is not up to me, but I am sure you can take that up with the powers that be???

2) We dont ship to AU anyway, and have not since our exclusive agreement was made with DHZ several yrs ago.

3) I agree Ken is a great guy and we have a great relationship, I couldent agree more!!

Originally Posted by Pitster
I hope things are well with you in OHIO, home of the "HE MAN PITSTER HATERS", lol. I would guess if I checked your Ip address I would know just who you are too. Have a nice day.

For those of you that need Pit Pike parts and accessories and Pitster Pro info and help. You know were to find us.
Thanks

I have no HATE for you... It is again unbecoming to lump all of OHIO into a stereotyped group of haters.... My predispositions are from my OWN experiences with you and I have done little to attampt to sway anyone else's business with you other than giving my honest opinion of my dealings...

Unfortuneately I am lumped into an "OHIO HATERS CLUB" by one of the industries' SUPPOSED leaders!!!! LOL how funny

p.s. ride honda

i agreed with the honda statement.

i got pop corn if anyone wants some.

Originally Posted by Pitster
I hope things are well with you in OHIO, home of the "HE MAN PITSTER HATERS", lol. I would guess if I checked your Ip address I would know just who you are too. Have a nice day.

For those of you that need Pit Pike parts and accessories and Pitster Pro info and help. You know were to find us.
Thanks

whoa, just keep it professional..... im on neither side but your actions reflects on your business. u should just keep your cool and your customers.

Originally Posted by crfiddy02
whoa, just keep it professional..... im on neither side but your actions reflects on your business. u should just keep your cool and your customers.

lol + 5,000,000

Originally Posted by 50rider340
i agreed with the honda statement.

i got pop corn if anyone wants some.

Hondas are faster than u can say orval redenbacher!

Originally Posted by 50rider340
i agreed with the honda statement.

i got pop corn if anyone wants some.

I'd like some...I like popcorn

Originally Posted by burch753
I have no HATE for you... It is again unbecoming to lump all of OHIO into a stereotyped group of haters.... My predispositions are from my OWN experiences with you and I have done little to attampt to sway anyone else's business with you other than giving my honest opinion of my dealings...

Unfortuneately I am lumped into an "OHIO HATERS CLUB" by one of the industries' SUPPOSED leaders!!!! LOL how funny

OK thank you for that, I should not have assumed you are from the other group. I am sorry you have had a bad experience, and would love to speak to you over the phone about it and see what went wrong for you.

Please reach me during normal business hours and we can discuss.

Thanks

all i got to say is if crap like this went on in australia the importer/dealer would get blacklisted pretty quick and in return probly either sell up or go broke....

do yourself and the economy a favor and look after your dealers...

and Pitster Pro, as for not offering AU residents products does that count for parts as well...

This thread will be closed or locked,long before most of the stories make it on here...

Originally Posted by doopsx3
I have bought almost all of my new motorcycles (Honda Yamaha Kawasaki) from the same dealer for over 15 years. Even when he did not have the brand or specific model that I wanted, he jumped through hoops to get me what I was looking for and for little or no overhead. To think if I could of had a chance just to get on a Yamaha corporate website and order a bike directly from the manufacturer it would have alienated me away from the great supporters of the sport called dealers. Local dealers assit the manufacturers in more ways than just selling their products. They support the sport and assist the buyer in many more ways than that can be taken care of thru a website or over the phone. I like to see the person I am talking too when I am purchasing a new vehicle. It helps me decide if I am making a good decision or not. I have to say that my friend (dealer) currently does not sell new Japanese motorcycles anymore (I am sad) he sells Hyosung's and used bikes of all models but he was the 1st person I went to when I wanted to buy my '08 Yamaha WR250X. He went way beyond my expectations and set me up a great deal on the bike at a Los Angeles Yamaha dealer. THIS IS WHAT IT IS ABOUT PEOPLE!!!!!!!! Good manufacturers know they need people to promote their products in order to stay alive. Consumers like it when they can go to their LOCAL dealer and get service, parts, bikes, a reach around, shoot the bull..etc.....ya get where I am coming from.......to me really a bike is a bike is a bike...there are great ones and then there are true pos.....ya get what ya pay for....that goes for material and/or customer service......sorry for ranting..I do not do it often....but I feel this should have been said...just my opinion.....I will now wait for the daggers

Well said, this is the reason why we have eliminated the drop ship type dealers from our program so that stocking dealers can be established in the respected areas and see that customers can get the service they need locally.

Thanks for your comments.

gooo colts!!

Originally Posted by sean01
all i got to say is if crap like this went on in australia the importer/dealer would get blacklisted pretty quick and in return probly either sell up or go broke....

do yourself and the economy a favor and look after your dealers...

and Pitster Pro, as for not offering AU residents products does that count for parts as well...

A customer in AU can buy many parts from our web site, so long as they are NOT Pitster Pro parts. For Pitster Pro parts or bikes they need to contact DHZ or one of DHZ dealers, same goes for every other country or area we have a dealer established in.

Ah. Oh BTW I'm talking with staggs..

 

[bulldog93]

Continued..........

Originally Posted by mxkid247
gooo colts!!

LOL I agree, go colts!
I am off, if you all have any more questions, you can reach me during normal biz hrs. Have a great weekend!!

Oh and Ken (DHZ) Hope all is well in AU, you better make it out to Vegas this yr!!

Originally Posted by Pitster
Well said, this is the reason why we have eliminated the drop ship type dealers from our program so that stocking dealers can be established in the respected areas and see that customers can get the service they need locally.

Thanks for your comments.

I too, aggree with Doopsx3's comments... but undercutting your dealers is not the way to provide "local service"

If by, "Other Group" you mean a member of another forum that predominately has seen bad experiences with you, then yes... I am.

but writing everyone off as haters who is a part of this forum or associates thereof is STILL stereotyping... I know you can never please everyone, and every customer is different but when I race 30+ times one summer and win championships and everyone I know to trust in the industry is against you because of their own bad experiences..... something is wrong...

Originally Posted by Pitster
We are not some guy working out of a house trying to make a few quick bucks, or some guy doing this on "the side" like some many!!

i have nothing to do with this, but im sry that was uncalled for. Not everyone goes corporate, im sure you guys started out small and grew.

Gary I am not trying to start anything but you are getting rid of dealers like Killer Motorsports ??

Originally Posted by Blackwoodz
lets keep this unbiased.

bit hard when your around

Originally Posted by micro75
Gary I am not trying to start anything but you are getting rid of dealers like Killer Motorsports ??

I am sorry I cannot name names on a public forms, but I am more then happy to discuss if you would like to call.

Originally Posted by 50rider340
i have nothing to do with this, but im sry that was uncalled for. Not everyone goes corporate, im sure you guys started out small and grew.

Your right.

Originally Posted by sagaone
bit hard when your around

yeah so

Go Saints

 

[Truth]

As for the banned question here's all I can say. Everytime I try to log in I get this message.



You have been banned for the following reason:
No reason was specified.

Date the ban will be lifted: Never

 

[mini mullisha]

am i tripping ? or did 1 of staggs post get deleted?
From PM thread?
Swear i seen post by him then refeshed page and was gone? lol

 

[wogtaz ryder]

yer there has been a few deleted lol ..

Atleast they havnt deleted the thread . Yet.....

 

[Truth]

It's still up then?

 

[sean01]

nah man i think your right, i seen a post from him too.. but now its gone..
actually i got email notification on and ill have his message on my email....

strangely enough the last 2 posts i havent been notified about...

but his reply was there

 

[wogtaz ryder]

Yep it is still kicking.

No Way!!! Go COWBOYS!!! awww crap...they did not make it..............again!!!!

Hahaha, you guys are gonna be pissed when the Saints whip that @$$! WHO DAT!!!!

Either way, its going to be one of the better Super Bowls I think!

You can justify and proudly say that you've gotten rid of the dropship dealers so you can give your stocking dalers a chance, but how do you explain selling a bike 100.00 less then dealer cost to the guy truth (keele81)?

thats funny you posted that...I teach Riders Edge (Harley's MSF rider course) and this picture is part of the curriculum...lol...(Harley history 101)

im not here shutting you down or bashing you in anyway just have a question for ya... i ordered a stem,and the two stem nuts from you guys and just wondering when i should expect them, i emailed you but it was your business email and it was after hours so i was just wonderin cause im in kind of a rush to get them, thanks

I'm looking for a new truck. Gonna call Bill Ford Jr at home. Local dealer wants too close to sticker price. Cried some nonsense about feeding his kids or something.

Actually it was ME that named them that, as a joke, while I was still a PP dealer. Lads look a bit like Dom and Doug

Before the "$100 heard 'round the world" deal became the last straw...

 

[wogtaz ryder]

Theres a few of FPM's usual pictures in there to lol

 

[Truth]

Thank you Wogtaz.

 

[Truth]

Looked to be heading another direction before Bulldog posted, I love that guy